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Raw & Uncut w/ Adam Waters Part 1

• Spencer Gallo • Episode 5

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Welcome to Fitness by Design! In this special episode, I’m joined by my client Adam, who has been an absolute rockstar on his fitness journey. Over the last two years, Adam has dropped 60 pounds, transformed his body composition, and unlocked a healthier, more confident version of himself.

In this raw and uncut conversation, Adam opens up about:
🔥 The mindset shifts that helped him overcome years of yo-yo dieting
🔥 How he balanced weight loss and strength training to achieve sustainable results
🔥 The impact of fitness on his personal life, from rebuilding confidence to setting a healthier example for his son

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Spencer Gallo:

Welcome to fitness by design. This is the podcast where we engineer optimal health, energy, and confidence for corporate men, just like you, without having to sacrifice any of your career success or family time. I'm your host coach Spencer. And today we have a special guest with us and that is my client, Adam. So before we dive into it, Adam has been an absolute all star we've been working together Almost two years at the time of this recording and Adam is down over 60 pounds in that time. I don't want to jabber on too much about Adam's story. I'm going to let him tell it from his own perspective. So with that said, let's get into it. Adam, welcome to the show.

Adam Waters:

Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate it. I appreciate you having me and excited to share a little bit about me and the journey I've been on and, um, and show you gratitude along the way.

Spencer Gallo:

Absolutely, man. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Um, So obviously, first of all, thank you for coming on. Um, you know, kind of more of an inaugural, uh, you know, you were on a previous version of the podcast and you and Ari and I went on for about an hour and a half. So hopefully we'll be able to cut that down today with only one of one of you here. Um, but I mean, that said, man, like, I just want to turn it over to you. Um, you know, besides just saying like, welcome and thank you for being here. But just start to kind of tell everybody that's listening, like, who are you? What's a little bit about yourself? Like, what is, what is your life kind of look like right now? And, and what does that look like? Especially on the fitness side of things.

Adam Waters:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I'm happy to dive into any of the background and stuff too. But, you know, sticking with right now, um, couple years has been, um, So much fun and such a great experience for me. Um, again, I'll elaborate, but I, I've been up and down my whole life. So the heaviest I ever was, I was at 400 pounds, got down to 215 at one point, but I was cutting hard and tons and tons of cardio, went back up over 300, back down to 220, back up over 300. I mean, I've been kind of everywhere. then, uh, Happened to meet this random guy a couple, almost two years ago now, who, I finally decided to take a chance and admit that I needed some help. Uh, my biggest issue's always been nutrition. Okay. Okay. Um, But getting in and actually getting the, Okay. You and really taking the, the time to learn more about that and how to properly fuel your body, and how that actually helps you, you, you know, body work the way it's supposed to. So that's a, that's a quick and dirty, uh, explanation of it, and then I'll dive into anything, obviously. I'm an open book, and I'll share whatever.

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah, man, I love that. So, you know, obviously like it's been a journey, um, you know, I think we, you and I just talked last week, two weeks ago and you said to me, you were like, man, I think I said this before, but like, I don't know how, but I have been the healthiest fat guy you've ever going to meet. It just, it's like that proverbial, like, you know, you talk about your journey of like 400 to 215 backup. When we started working together, you were sitting at like 290. Um, you know, before all of like coming into me, like before you joined the program, like realistically, like what was, what was going on in your life? Like, what were you dealing with? What were you struggling with? Um, that kind of led you to a point of like, Hey, this isn't working.

Adam Waters:

Yeah, I think, you know, I think I was just sick of not liking who I was, not liking what I saw in the mirror. Um, I finally was, was at the point that, like I don't, I wouldn't say I was at rock bottom. I wasn't, you know, ready to go do anything drastic or, or like that. But, finally had a hard conversation, I guess, with myself of like, hey, dumbass, can I cuss? I don't know what your rules

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah, absolutely.

Adam Waters:

Okay, good. Um, hey dumbass, it's time to go get some help. And time to stop you know isn't gonna work. Because, uh, I've done plenty of that in my life. I've done plenty of, of not doing the right things. Um, not in where I should be both in my exercise and in my nutrition and it was finally time go somebody me dial that in and actually make the changes that need to be made to go get to a point where I start like myself a little more. I mean, hate talking about myself, but like personality wise. a good dude. me. That's great. But would see myself in the mirror and I didn't like myself. Um, so it finally got to the point where it was just like, Hey, okay, yeah. Like I don't, I don't even remember if I'm how you came across my radar. I think it was via social media. You know, I follow lots of different influencers and different health people and, and you popped up uh, just happened to be the right me to finally take that step and go for it. Go ask for help. Go reach out. Go, hey, let's see guy's all about. Um, knows whether it'll work or not. You you never know, but, um, a shot. And, there's no harm in a conversation. and that conversation has now led to, to almost two years later, um, down over 60 pounds, but dive deeper into this here in a little bit, like overall body composition, I is over 100 pounds of difference between fat loss and muscle gained. So that's even a little more not that I'm looking for people to say it's impressive about me, but just within and what can be done. Um, and it's. I'll have people that will ask some stuff to, you know, like, Oh, have you done it? Is it, is it hard? Is it like, yeah, dude, it's hard. It's not easy all the time. But, if you ask me if worth it, yeah, a hundred percent. Um, of, lots things in my life that have changed over the last two years that I think all started with reach out and ask for help and finally make a difference, a change in my health.

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah, yeah, and, you know, I, I just pulled up your that random flash on the side of my face. I was pulling up your, um, Your like file on my side, um, to see from start till your lowest, which is not right now, we did put a little bit of fat on over the last couple of months, but that's your holiday weight. Um, you lost, you've lost like 35 percent body fat on top of 65 pounds, which is just insane to think about. Um, and it's, you know, I feel like when. I think I talked about this a couple weeks ago in a piece of content was like, when people hear your story, like 60 pounds is awesome. And they're like, wow, that's so great. And then you're like, yeah, he did it in two years. And they're like, That's not that impressive. It's like, this has been a journey, like, especially like you kind of talked about it as like, there was a point in time where you looked in the mirror and you were just like, I don't like who I am. I don't like who I'm looking at to just a couple weeks ago when we talked and you were like, Yeah, I don't, I don't really, like, I don't have a number on the scale that I want to hit right now. And like, that just, that mentality to me, just like, is like the ultimate, like, exploding brain, like, what just happened, like, how did we get here type of thing, you know?

Adam Waters:

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And, and I totally get it too. Cause I've, I've crash dieted. Yeah. I've lost a lot of weight in a short amount of time. the difference is this one's sustainable. This is a lifestyle. Like this is actually what I'm doing. This isn't a diet. This is a lifestyle, which I know these are all trigger words and I've heard them forever, but it's the truth. I've done, know, two protein shakes a day in one meal. I've done 1200 calories or less a day. I've done hours and hours of cardio. I've done all of it. And, The second you stop, you go the opposite direction, right? And this is finally something to me where,

Spencer Gallo:

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Adam Waters:

have of the body fat and the muscle and the weight and the different things, and just looking at overall picture of like, you know, The slow, steady progress is what will actually last. Um, it's what will actually allow me to go live my life and not go back up to three, four hundred pounds. I think that was the mindset shift of, it's not just about how quick can I go lose something. it's how can I go lose it and then, it off, um, or the fat, gain the muscle, or change the mentality. Like, there's just so many other pieces that go into it for the long term life goals of being healthy.

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And, and I think that that's mindset I think is, again, it's, it's a buzzword. It's the same thing, but it's like, that's kind of what it is, right? Is like, there is a. Really just comes down to having the mentality and the ability to say, listen, I'm not going to lose 60 pounds in six months. And that's okay. Because I know that I can lose the 60 pounds. And I can do it in a way that I'm going to be able to keep it off this time, you know, especially for somebody like you, like, I've never pushed even 250, let alone three, 400 pounds. Like, you know, what does that feel like for you? Like, like, if you like, kind of like go back when you were 400 pounds, if you had said, Hey, in two years, You can be, you know, at that point in time, it's like, you can be almost 300 pounds and like have kept it off. What would, like, how does that, like, when you think about it in that manner, does that, like, how does that change for you versus like now sitting at two 25, two 30, depending on the day, um, looking back even now, just looking at your journey and being like, Oh, like March of 2023, I was 290 pounds. Like, what does that feel like?

Adam Waters:

Yeah, I think it's an interesting concept to think about. I think the, it feels rewarding. I mean, that's kind of that buzzword, I guess there, but it's just one of those of like, for me, I knew I could do it, um, but I needed to find a way where it would actually a lifelong thing and for me too. I'll take it a step back like personally Of course, I wanted to be healthy. I want to do that, but I also am a single father And so I wanted to set a better example for my son so that he doesn't have to go through the same things that I went through in life, right? at the age now. He just turned 17 where he's He plays sports, he's getting a lot more into, the athletic side of things, the, the health side of things, he works out a couple times a week with a trainer in a group, um, and then doing his sports, uh, you know, practices and trainings and stuff too, and so, set that, that, uh, example and very much. better life can be if you go focus on these simple things, um, for me like that I guess is, is one of the bigger things that, I'm really proud of in what I've been able to do. so I don't know if proud is the word I would choose. I don't know if there's like just a singular

Spencer Gallo:

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Adam Waters:

an accomplishment. Um, and I'm not done, but it's, it's. Uh, it's fun, fun to see my journey through other people's eyes, I guess, too, as people have said things or asked questions or want to know what's happening. Uh, but then to go set that example for, my son too, to make sure that he, like he

Spencer Gallo:

Silence.

Adam Waters:

different things like that. idea if I answered your question, but

Spencer Gallo:

No, absolutely. And I, that's kind of where I was leading was just like, and I remember, God, I don't even know how long ago it was. I think you dropped it in like the group wins chat that you're like randomly, like you came home and you're like, Oh, my son made dinner. And it was this like immaculate, like high protein, like good, high quality foods dinner. And you're like, this is weird, but it was awesome.

Adam Waters:

yeah. Yeah, it was like a steak and maybe some potatoes, and I think we had some shrimp at the time, and he did like, he designed it all and made it, and it was one of those, I'm like, man, this is something that I would go make. Part of that is because that's all we have in the house. It's a lot less of the garbage, right? But, yeah. But just that, that example and seeing what I'm doing, and whether he realizes it or not, that's influencing what he's doing also. I do, I remember that now that you say that, that's funny, I can see the picture in

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah. Yeah, I, that, that actually, I think is a great segue is I think that I was going to take this conversation a different way, but I think that you just opened up a door that I think is something that is screw it. This podcast is so anti fitness industry right now. It's not even funny. Um. But it's like the fitness industry is like, go throw away the chips, throw away all the bad foods in your fridge. Like don't have anything that's tempting. And like, you kind of brought that up where you're like, Oh, like he cooked that because that was all that was there. But like, for you, realistically, like within the last two years, like, where has that mindset been in terms of that? Like, and be fully honest, like, just because I'm your coach does not mean like you have to say it some way or another, but like, to me, I'm like, I think that I preach the fact that like, dude, if you want to have a sleeve of Oreos in your pantry, because you're going to have one or two do it because that's going to be better than you not having the Oreos. And then in three days, binging on a gallon of ice cream.

Adam Waters:

Yeah, yeah, I agree with that, and that's definitely something that you've said over and over, and it wasn't the right way to say that's all that's in the house, but, um, cause that's not all that's in the house. Um, that's the thing, is it's not, this hasn't been a, hey cut this out, hey cut this out, hey don't eat this, don't eat this, don't eat this, and I know we've talked about it many times and I've talked about it with tons and tons of people of, if you go tell me, you can't eat Oreos, all I want to do is go eat Oreos. and I'm not even that big of a fan of Oreos, which I know, controversial, sorry, but, um. that hasn't been what it is. It's hey, here's here's your

Spencer Gallo:

Um,

Adam Waters:

know if you go into the full macros into the the fats and carbs also hit these goals whatever means necessary. Um, so it isn't hey, no beer. Hey, no ice cream. Hey, no sweets. Hey, no hey, no, whatever it's No, here's, here's your goals. Go hit those goals enjoy life. you even said something to me in my check in after this last weekend of, you

Spencer Gallo:

Okay.

Adam Waters:

have that dinner out. Go have that weekend out. Go enjoy the holidays. Go do whatever. Knowing that like there's this track to to get back into or just to help kind of guide those food choices along the way But it's not it's

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah,

Adam Waters:

yeah Here's here's the guidelines for it. Here's your goals. fun find your ways to hit it and eat your pine ice cream at night or whatever it is

Spencer Gallo:

so, you know, with that, like, maybe I'm the only guy out there that does it. I don't think. Like I am. I'm sure there's other coaches that do it, but for you, like you tried so many things over the years when we started working together, was there something saying like the first, I don't know, three, four months that you just like it clicked in your head and you were like, this is different. And I know that this is going to work.

Adam Waters:

Yes, I don't know if you were leading me here or not, but the,

Spencer Gallo:

That was, I realized like immediately, I was like, that was a leading question. And I actually don't know the answer to this. Like that was the worst lawyer decision of my life. I have no idea what your answer is to this question.

Adam Waters:

it was one of the first conversations we ever had though when I, when I reached out to you I was eating 1200 calories a day trying to drop weight that way And you, I think we doubled it. I think we were at 2400 or 2300 or something like that right away And I lost whatever it was like 10 pounds in six weeks or something like that I don't remember the exact numbers and it was like that's different because everything has always been Restrict, restrict, restrict, right? Like, less calories, less calories, less calories. We doubled what I was eating in a day, and set a protein goal, and I dropped, call it ten pounds in four weeks, six weeks, whatever it was. Um, that was definitely one of those, like, aha moments of like, oh, okay, like, this shit might be legit. Like, this might actually be the right path. And it's crazy to think that that was almost two years ago now. Like I

Spencer Gallo:

Okay. You

Adam Waters:

and to think that that was March of 2023 and we're in January of 2025 is pretty, pretty insane to think about that it's gone, there were two years down the road. I

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah, so, you know, with that said, like, was there hesitation when you got on the call? Like did you know when you came into that you were like, this guy's going to try and sell me something and I don't know that I want to buy it. Like was there any amount of hesitation or just skepticism of like, who the fuck is this Spencer guy? Why is he in my DMS asking me to get on a call?

Adam Waters:

sure, it has nothing to do with you, but it was definitely one of those, you know, and maybe it's an ego thing on my side, like, oh, I've done this before, I know how to do it. Um, why is this any different than any other fad diet that I've tried or, or quick fix that Worked for me multiple times in my life and then didn't work for me as soon as it stopped so yeah, absolutely there was hesitation and then going back to what I just said like when you also said Hey, we're gonna double the amount of food you're eating every single day right off the bat you're gonna lose weight I was like Are you sure? Like, okay, maybe? And I think I said that to you. pretty quickly there too, of like, okay, I'm Um, it's weird, know that this is correct, but we'll go give it a shot and see what happens. and here we are two years later.

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah. So, you know, I, I guess for me, like, oh, this is going to be a horrible question because I'm your coach and I shouldn't be asking this question. Realistically. So we just, you just renewed for the year 2025 for three weeks in almost to the day. Realistically, do you feel like you could have been like, I'm good gone out on your own and still been able to keep and maintain your results?

Adam Waters:

Maintain, yes. Keep them, I think so, yeah. But I'm not done yet. That's, that's where my mindset is, um, as far as why I renewed and kept going. Um, I did say, you know, with our 2025 goals, like, I don't think the scale is my, uh, determining factor anymore. I don't necessarily have a weight goal, I know I'm not done. With my transformation, I know I'm not done putting on muscle, changing my body, that kind of stuff. So do I, realistically, do I think I could have used what you've taught me over the last couple years and maintained or stayed pretty close? Yeah, I think so. but I don't, know that I would have, I don't know that I'm at the point yet where I'm able to go finish. There's never a finish, but keep, keep working towards that ideal body type or the, the muscle gain or that kind of stuff.

Spencer Gallo:

Awesome. I only asked that because I was just like genuinely curious because like, obviously like my goal, and I think I told you this very early, very early on when we were talking is literally like, my goal as a coach is not to just. Keep collecting your money every month and give you a coaching program. Like there are coaches out there that'll do that. Fuck them. But like, that's not who I am. And I think I have been pretty upfront with you, especially if not everybody in the, in the, the, you know, program. Like my goal is I want you to stay in the program because you want to be in the program, not because you need to be here because I haven't taught you how to do it yourself. Like I And I, I feel like I've done that. And I think that your answer kind of leads to that as like, yeah, like you could do it. You know enough how to do it. You could figure it out and you would be able to maintain your results or, or continue getting some for a while. Like, I don't think that if you left at the end of 2024, that you would be in a position where you're calling me in July being like, Hey dude, I packed 20 pounds back on.

Adam Waters:

Yeah, I agree. I think that I think I could, go and part of that is you, for sure. I mean, a big part is you and your open and honest communication and teaching. Part of that's I love to learn and I'm trying to absorb as much as I can and from you and from other sources and getting some of that, you know. But I also think like, I'm a sports guy, right? I, I do different things and, and when we started working together, I was sitting at a desk for eight hours a day. but now I help run a baseball facility, right? And so a sports thing of like the best athletes in the world still have coaches. so even if I could do it on my own or mostly do it on my own, like, I, I'm not at the point where I'm trying to sever ties something that's working. Um, Like, doesn't seem like a smart decision on my part. Not that I think I'd go back and go get up to 290 again. I don't want to ever be there or think that I will ever go there again. But also, why, why, it if it's not broken?

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So, you know, I guess we've had a long run, um, you know, realistically, like it's not been all sunshine and daisies, it hasn't been just rainbows and butterflies and, and constant weight loss. Um, Realistically for you, like, was there, could you pinpoint and maybe you can't, but like, is there a point that you could pinpoint where you're like, you were just struggling for like a week or two that you just like, for whatever reason, couldn't break a plateau or couldn't get through a mindset or something. And then ultimately if, if so, like, how do you feel like you were able to get out of that? And, and ultimately lands today on this podcast.

Adam Waters:

Yeah, I mean, I think the first thing that comes to my mind is, uh, 260. I was stuck at 260, I think, for a couple months. Like it was quite a while. I mean, that was part of our reverse I think was during that time too. But, um, that was tough. That was tough. And I've told you, but I grew up as a wrestler and so I've been on a scale my entire life. Um, and so definitely. you know, have been addicted to that at different points. And do you know that I was working, know that I was out, know was doing the right things. And that number was just flat for a long time. Um, that was tough. That was definitely tough. And days in there, where I was like, this, done. But days of like, God it, man. Like, has got to break at some point. Um, And I think the, I mean, I was just consistent. I didn't stop. was the work and trusting you. And, I will also, as on, like give you thanks and gratitude also. Cause I we had during that time where I'd reach out and be like, Hey, um, I'm, I'm struggling. Uh, this sucks, um, help, whatever, you know, and, and always And, and like, Hey, nope, I get it. Trust me, like here's what we're doing. Here's why. Um, and I think that's part of it, I guess, as I'm working through it my head is like, you, you said, you know, you're not just a coach that's just going to take your money. You're also not a coach. That's just going to be like, Hey, here's what you're doing. Like it's, Hey, here's what you're doing. Here's why you're doing it. and ask questions. Like let's have that conversation. back and forth. shed light for you on the reasons behind. think too, like great because you've asked. opinion or my or like, Hey, do you think we should, how do you feel about this training program? Should with it for another few weeks? Should we switch it up? how do you feel about our, macros right now? How do you feel about our Like it's not a, uh, here it is. You do it. It's a conversation. It's a, it's a mutual thing. as the coach and me as the one doing it, like think that's one of the biggest things has helped even through that period of, struggling for, Whatever period of time it was quite a while. I feel like um, but it was the ability to reach out help uh your support and your Willingness to be like, hey, nope. I understand. what we're doing. And here's why and I think you even at one point as we're getting closer towards the of the reverse or whatever hey, here's, here's our timeline for it. But if we need to go make a change a little sooner, like we can do that. I think we should keep doing this, but we can go make a change. So just that, that flexibility and, and willingness to go hear my input on, on stuff, I think is huge too.

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah. Yeah. And I, I'm even looking back trying to find where we'd started your reverse. We were, so the beginning of your reverse, you were at 2250 calories at 261 average, but 262, let's route it up to 62 average. We reversed for four months, three months. Three and a half. When we started your fat loss phase, you were at 3200 calories, 950 calories more a day. And you were averaging two, two 64 to two pounds on average up. And the week before that you were at 263, like the last week of the reverse, you went up a little bit, so like almost a thousand full calories over three months and you gained 2. 06 pounds on average, and you actually lost 1, 100th of a percent or a 10th of a percent body fat.

Adam Waters:

Yeah One, and it

Spencer Gallo:

So

Adam Waters:

one of those things you said there was like, Hey, we're going to add more calories in, which also means we're going to

Spencer Gallo:

Silence. Silence. Silence. Silence.

Adam Waters:

muscle. but yeah, that was, you kept putting that in perspective and helping like the reminders and you even did it with me on Sunday or whatever day where you're like, Hey, just a reminder of where you came from. And, and that piece is super helpful too of you get stuck in the now forget about what has happened over the last two months, year, two years.

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah. Yeah. To, to peel back the curtain for anybody listening, like I, we do check ins inside of the program on Saturdays and I send all the guys feedback on Sundays before the Eagles games, which sucks when we play it one, but we make it happen. Um, but this week, like Adam's check in, if you don't mind me sharing it was basically like, you It wasn't what was me, but it was like, it had kind of undertones of, I'm not seeing results and I'm getting a little frustrated was at least how I kind of took it. And my feedback to him was, but we're adding calories back in, look at the journey that you've been on. We're down 60 pounds. Yeah, I get it. There's frustration because the scale is not going down, but we've also increased your calories by I think three or four hundred since like the beginning of December. We've increased calories quite a bit. We're eating more food and the scale is not expected to go down right now, but we're Building strength. You're getting more energy. You're building, you're building that strength. You're feeling stronger in the gym. Your energy is going up. Like all of the things are happening. And so it was a little bit of like, just, you know, again, to peel back that curtain for people is like, this wasn't, you know, Hey, we're going to do this. Hey, here's this picture. It was like, Adam, I mean, quite frankly, like again, and you came back and you were like, no, no, no, that's not what I meant. But like, I get it. And I was like, I just, I just want to make sure like you understand, like, that's part of why I'm here is. Anybody else, if they're trying to reverse diet themselves, or just increase their calories, or even in a fat loss phase, when the scale's not moving for a week or two, they're like, Jesus, like, this isn't fucking working. For you, it was like, hey, the scale's not moving, I'm ki like, it's kind of annoying. I wasn't perfect, but like, it's kind of annoying. And I'm like, okay, cool, so just be more consistent this week. We'll be fine. Not worried about it. If you gained five pounds, I would have a different conversation with you.

Adam Waters:

Yeah. And I, I think, and I, I told you this too, and I don't, you can share whatever it doesn't, I'm an open book and have been and always will be, but there's definitely a fear in the back of the mind because have lost weight before and then gained it again. I've never done it this way. Right? This is a whole different world. But that, that slight fear of, I going to go back the other way again? and I know how easy it would be to go back the other way again, because I've done it. not that this is hard, this isn't easy, but whatever. But like, I know how to do this now, I also know how to go back up and, and go back to 300 pounds. And there's always kind of that fear in the back of the mind, I think. And, um, if you ever watch people that go lose a bunch of weight, whether it's through surgery or, or whatever, like a lot of them do end up going back and gaining it again. And I think that's part of it is there's that, that piece of, you know, for me in the back of my mind of like, Oh yeah, I'm, I'm still that fat kid. And could go be that again real quick. so that's an interesting one to work through and go change my mindset, which is what we shared already of letting the scale dictate the results. Um, that's a scary one too, because scale is an easy way to see those results, good or bad, versus trying to figure out what my ideal body is or gaining muscle in the gym because takes lot longer to that. So some of that's interesting too to go figure out how to shift my mindset to some of things.

Spencer Gallo:

Yeah, it's with that, like, I was kind of thinking like overall, like, especially the mindset side of it, but like, was, do you, would you be able to say, like, at any point in time where you like you truly feel Kind of had this dawning realization of like, oh, this is like a big shift in What's happening and like whether that was the weight going down whether that was your lifts whether that was your mindset like anything like that Where there was like this almost like, you know dawning moment. You're like, oh Like this is a massive shift in like who Adam is

Adam Waters:

Yeah, I think, I think part of it, and this might sound vain, or whatever, but like, seeing more definition, seeing more of the, as funny as it is, like the shoulder cap to the bicep to the tricep, like, things like that, where it's like, okay, my, my goals are different, like what I want is different, um, and I don't know if that was like a sudden shift, but just seeing some of that kind of stuff I think has been more of what I see. to hold on to and, and become more of where my goals are through how I want my body to look and how I want to feel versus the number I want to see on the scale. super random kind of funny

Spencer Gallo:

Um,

Adam Waters:

here between my shoulder and my trap and my collarbone, and I was like, Oh, there's like an indentation there where it all just used to be like fat pockets and like little things like that that

Spencer Gallo:

Silence. Silence. Silence. You

Adam Waters:

let's, let's train. The metric. Let's change the measuring stick that we're using and try to get away from just that number. Because that number is just another metric. That's all it is. Just another way to gauge progress, I guess.

Spencer Gallo:

yeah, you definitely didn't tell me that. You also don't have to hide the fact that you were just flexing for the shampoo bottles. It's okay. It's

Adam Waters:

It's, you know,

Spencer Gallo:

like, that's, that's been the video that keeps popping up on social media is like the Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's like, Oh, me, me flexing for the shampoo and conditioner bottles.

Adam Waters:

Listen, they're always impressed. all I have to say.

Spencer Gallo:

Um, so obviously like inside of the program, every single week, we're talking wins, right? We start your check in form every single week. What's a win. What's a win. What's a win because we want to celebrate those wins. One question that I don't think that I have asked you in two years, what has been the proudest moment for you of the last two years,

Adam Waters:

Um, nothing like putting you on the spot to try to figure out the best thing

Spencer Gallo:

to be fair, Adam has no idea what questions I have planned for him today. I did not send him the script ahead of time,

Adam Waters:

nope.

Spencer Gallo:

but there was, there was no prep for him this time.

Adam Waters:

I mean, as far as like the program itself goes, think there's two things that come to mind right away, like simple things, but they make a big difference. Right. Um, I cleaned out my closet a couple weeks ago or a month ago or whatever and got rid of a bunch of old big stuff, which is cool. Um, and then, Just like two or three days ago, I put on a large sweatshirt, um, that fit. And just for the record, just like at the biggest of my life, I was wearing five X stuff. and I put on a large sweatshirt and like, it fit pretty well.

Spencer Gallo:

Okay.

Adam Waters:

is good. Like that's, that's something that definitely helps me a lot and helps keep me going. Um, I guess, I don't know that you can really like a win for somebody as their own personal thing, but that's.

Spencer Gallo:

Um, Silence. Silence.

Adam Waters:

a heavy lifting phase right now, and I'm doing multiple sets of bench over 200 pounds. Um, when I was in high school, I think my max was like 305 or 315. And I've never been back up to that strong. Um, nor does that, do I necessarily to be, but to go do sets at 200 pounds for me mentally and like, okay, that's, that's pretty cool. Like that, that feels good to go push some weight. Um, think that piece actual physical results or things like that within the program, are the that pop out now in my personal life. If you want to go that way, there's other things too, but

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